Comments on: Privatization

By: snusket

snusket — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:07:54 +0000

Interesting… I am not US American, but I have been to the US and I have worked with US Americans many years in Europe. One thing I would like to say is that the discussion above reflects my experience with many conservative US citizens. They simply come across as tremendously egoistic.

Several people above ask: “Why would I pay for you? Get a job!”

Well, why do we do it in so many places in Europe? Because we care for each other. And because we realize that it is the humane thing to do to help others in need. I am surprised that it is the christian right that is least compassionate when it comes to the topic of “social healthcare”.

Another reason we do it is simply that you never know when you could be the one who needs some help. And if you do you will be glad that you agreed to have a system that helps people help each other. So in the end social healthcare is a way to help yourself.

A last thing that is interesting in this discussion in the US is the paranoia of the term “social”. It really sound incredibly brainwashed and frankly stupid if people write things like “now socialism, tomorrow communism and then our freedom is gone”. As someone pointed out correctly above many of the countries in Europe actually have a higher degree of freedom no matter how you define freedom.

For instance: we have more paid holidays and time off, shorter working hours, more paid time with our newborn babies, more freedom of the press (indeed, go google it- but sure, these stats are all rigged by US haters- your response to every criticism I guess) and a political system that enables us to participate much more efficiently in politics than your de-facto two-party system.

Most of my friends would never move to the US. Why? Not because they hat you guys, in fact, since Obama it is possible to at least like you again, but because you are so damn egoistic. You guys are scary. Fortunately there are some reasonable people as well. I am just afraid, they may not be enough.

By: wisp

wisp — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:38 +0000

Yelena ,

I have something for you to read

Why socialism works by Albert Einstein
http://www.monthlyreview.org/598einstein.php

By: blue

blue — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:17:33 +0000

what some of you are failing to realize is that you already are paying for people who can’t afford health insurance. The reason E.R. bills are so high is because everyone who goes to the E.R. and doesn’t have insurance gets treated anyway including illegals. More often than not they can’t or won’t pay those bills out of pocket so the hospital ups the cost of the bills on other people who have insurance to cover the cost.

By: winman

winman — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:40:51 +0000

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh you americans, your always so funny

By: Yelena

Yelena — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:29:20 +0000

JMF, I completely agree with you. I have some quotes I think all you people pro-Obama’s health care plan should read:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cu…pidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C S Lewis

“There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.” — Thomas Jefferson

“Charity is injurious unless it helps the recipient to become independent of it.”-John D. Rockefeller

“I believe in the dignity of labor, whether with head or hand; that the world owes no man a living but that it owes every man an opportunity to make a living.” – Rockefeller